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The articles below provide excellent commentary on what we are up against. =
Whether we like it or not history is littered with fallen empires and nati= ons who have persecuted the Jews. Israel, unlike us, at least until now, u= nderstands that it is in a war; a war for it's very survival; a war against= those who openly state that they do not consider Israel to have the right = to even exist. But we know from the Bible that Israel will always exist an= d those who help the Jews, God will bless and those who hate the Jews, God = will punish. And even though we don't always agree with what Israel does, = they are our friends, they know how to fight, and they are our allies in th= is War. =20 Israel knows they are in a fight for their very existence. The same enemy = of the Jews hates America. They hate America and the West for the very rea= sons outlined in the article below. They are and have been openly at war w= ith us for years. Every American better understand that now! And if we don= 't have the best intelligence service and the best armed forces in the worl= d we are going to continue to pay dearly. Several years before World War T= wo, MacArthur, while Chief of Staff of the Army, stated that there was noth= ing more expensive than a cheap army. We can expand that today to include = all aspects of national security to include an intelligence apparatus neces= sary to penetrate enemy organizations. The additional challenge we face is= in curbing the never ending desire for bigger and stronger government at t= he expense of freedom. Can we as a people vote in statesmen rather than po= liticians to fill the ranks of government? =20 But above and beyond all of this is the fact that the Christian (those who = believe in Jesus Christ - "faith alone in Christ alone" - for salvation) mu= st understand that Jesus Christ does control history and no matter what hap= pens on the historical scene He will take care of us both in life and in de= ath. With that said, we need to make sure that as many of these terroris= ts as possible meet "allah" very soon. =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Drexsmit@aol.com <mailto:Drexsmit@aol.com<=20 To: rgsu49a@email.msn.com <mailto:rgsu49a@email.msn.com< ; JCfirenze@aol.co= m <mailto:JCfirenze@aol.com< ; IBWriter@aol.com <mailto:IBWriter@aol.com< ;= Vegski@aol.com <mailto:Vegski@aol.com< ; eeasum@els.wylelabs.com <mailto:e= easum@els.wylelabs.com< ; Timothy_Escobar@ml.com <mailto:Timothy_Escobar@ml= .com< ; REvans6873@aol.com <mailto:REvans6873@aol.com< ; Wfedders@mtsac.edu= <mailto:Wfedders@mtsac.edu< ; Sohifriend@webtv.net <mailto:Sohifriend@webt= v.net< ; ihrke@mindspring.com <mailto:ihrke@mindspring.com< ; jkeeter@hmp.w= ylelabs.com <mailto:jkeeter@hmp.wylelabs.com< ; vannkenn@yahoo.com <mailto:= vannkenn@yahoo.com< ; kendallstudio@yahoo.com <mailto:kendallstudio@yahoo.c= om< ; rlkenda@pacbell.net <mailto:rlkenda@pacbell.net< ; guy@streamtech.com= <mailto:guy@streamtech.com< ; llsells@att.net <mailto:llsells@att.net< ; C= lcrsvp@aol.com <mailto:Clcrsvp@aol.com< ; michelle.r.moore@bankamerica.com = <mailto:michelle.r.moore@bankamerica.com< ; dansam@attglobal.net <mailto:da= nsam@attglobal.net< ; prasmuss@mtsac.edu <mailto:prasmuss@mtsac.edu< ; ebs@= gte.net <mailto:ebs@gte.net< ; gshindo@prodigy.net <mailto:gshindo@prodigy.= net< ; TONYSPLANS@aol.com <mailto:TONYSPLANS@aol.com< ; Andre.Smith@usoncol= ogy.com <mailto:Andre.Smith@usoncology.com< ; ADSGTS@aol.com <mailto:ADSGTS= @aol.com< ; Jaqsmit@aol.com <mailto:Jaqsmit@aol.com< ; cspry@earthlink.com = <mailto:cspry@earthlink.com< ; kimkaw@yahoo.com <mailto:kimkaw@yahoo.com< ;= Dancuer@earthlink.net <mailto:Dancuer@earthlink.net< ; Superangell3@onebox= .com <mailto:Superangell3@onebox.com< ; bwheelock@hotmail.com <mailto:bwhee= lock@hotmail.com< ; revimar@earthlink.net <mailto:revimar@earthlink.net< ; = dick.wright@aepi.army.mil <mailto:dick.wright@aepi.army.mil<=20 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Worth a read (if you have time) An interesting debate by folks that know far more that I about middle east = stuff. M/ Petit and Charlie are both former analysts with one of our secur= ity organizations and offer interesting insights. If you are in the mood, = worth a read (start on the bottom article)...DLS=20 =20 Comments by M/ Petit:=20 In response to several articles and comments I have received:=20 Regarding the original article, I disagree with one of the points. Jews w= ere originally treated decently for a while within Islam. As was women, un= til the Arabs encountered the tradition of purdah in India. Mohammed incorp= orated the Jewish prophets and have Jesus as one of his prophets.=20 As to comments that our relationship with Israel is the basis of this confl= ict, I disagree. There is a perceived cultural divide on the part of the = fanatical Muslims. The West is more representative of the devil's evil way= s. We are to them to the pagans that Christian missionaries sought to conv= ert. However, conversion to Islam is usually done under the sword. And it= goes deeper. We have defeated the Islamic forces when we have engaged the= m. And the Israelis have also done so. The defeats have been so thorough = as to be humiliating. =20 Israel must perceive itself as being independent. Politically their leader= never could accept direct orders from another state. But, note, one of th= e first countries to offer sympathy and support was Israel. =20 Note one thing. Arabs started the slave trade. Swahili is the language of= the Arab slave traders with their African business partners. African Musl= ims were buried in a separate section in a Muslim cemetery. Farrakan and h= is followers wake up.=20 Pakistan has declared it would support the US with permitting overhead flig= hts. The Afghanis are flooding out of their country. The Afghan leaders a= re announcing that they are safe, don't worry. The bottom line is that eve= n the Afghanis under the Taliban know who will win.=20 We have won the first skirmish in the War Against Terrorists.=20 M/Petit=20 -ubject: Re: Article on the Cause of the Attack=20 Interesting historical presentation - good food for thought - I also refer = you to page A-28 of the 15 September 2001 Washington Post.=20 Bush requests Shaon get on with talks with Arafat - Sharon says shove it up= your nose - is this a positive thinking member of the western world? We s= end $4B a year to Israel to protect them as a nation and assist in keeping = them in the "modern" world - It never hurts to talk to your adversaries - = even if you talk while fighting. The current disaster poses an opportunity= for both friends and allies to understand U.S. power.=20 Thoughts?=20 <http://www.nationalreview.com/images/page_2001_derbyshire-print.gif< Hesperophobia=20 On blaming the Jews.=20 Mr. Derbyshire is also an NR contributing editor=20 September 13, 2001 5:00 p.m.=20 =20 Back in 1982 there were some horrible massacres at two Palestinian refugee = camps in Lebanon. Christian Lebanese Arabs actually did the killing; but th= e Israeli army was in the neighborhood, and was responsible, at some theore= tical level, for keeping the peace in the zone that included the camps. Bec= ause of this, the Israelis took much of the brunt of the world's outrage at= the killings. Commenting on these events, the Israeli Prime Minister, Mena= chem Begin, remarked in disgust: "Goyim kill goyim, and they blame the Jews= !"=20 I've been getting the same feeling from some of my e-mail. The fundamental = reason America is under attack by Arab terrorists, several dozen people wan= t me to know, is that the U.S. supports Israel. And the only reason we do t= hat, several of them have said, or hinted, is because of the political powe= r of the Jewish lobby here in the U.S.A. A few of my correspondents have ex= pressed themselves more ... bluntly than that. Put it this way: While I hav= e not yet encountered the word "bloodsuckers" (perhaps my readership isn't = "diverse" enough), some of this stuff comes pretty close - though I should = say in fairness, most is argued on cold national-interest grounds. At any r= ate, a lot of people feel that the mass killing of Americans by Arab terror= ists is all the fault of Israel and those American politicians who, for low= and disreputable motives, or from sheer blindness to America's true ideals= and interests, support her. Goyim kill goyim, and they blame the Jews.=20 Setting aside the statistical certainty that some of the dead Americans are= Jewish (as, in high statistical probability, some were of Arab origins), a= nd at the risk of yet more ill-tempered or abusive e-mails, I am going to d= eclare that I don't think these recent outrages can be blamed on the Jews, = nor even on pro-Israel American politicians. The root phenomenon is not Ame= rican involvement in Middle Eastern affairs: The root phenomenon is hespero= phobia.=20 This word was coined by the political scientist Robert Conquest. Its roots = are the Greek words hesperos, which means "the west" and phobos, which mean= s "fear," but which when used as an English suffix can also carry the meani= ng "hate." Hesperophobia is fear or hatred of the West. [While I'm in the c= lassical stuff, by the way, I committed a breach of good manners in my last= posting by inserting a Latin tag without translation. I am sorry. Oderint = dum metuant means "Let them hate us, so long as they fear us." Seneca rebuk= ed Cicero for saying it, though it seems to have been current among educate= d late-republican Romans.]=20 Here is the news: A lot of people out there hate us. The name "Durban" mean= anything? In China, in India, in Pakistan, in Indonesia and Malaysia, in A= frica, and in the Arab countries, European civilization - the West - is wid= ely hated. Matter of fact, quite a lot of Europeans and Americans hate it, = too, as you will know if you spend much time on college campuses.=20 I can't see any strong reason for believing that if the state of Israel wer= e to disappear from the face of the earth tomorrow, hesperophobia would dis= appear with it. Not even just Arab hesperophobia would decline. A common wo= rd for Europeans in the Arabic language is feringji, from "Frank," i.e. cru= sader. Arabs don't hate us because we support Israel. They hate us because = we humiliated them, showed up the gross inferiority of their culture. To th= em, and similarly humiliated peoples, we are the other, detested and feared= in a way we can barely understand. Things got really bad in the 19th centu= ry. When European society achieved industrial lift-off, Europeans were sudd= enly buzzing all over the world like a swarm of bees. They encountered thes= e other cultures, that had been vegetating in a quiet conviction of their o= wn superiority for centuries (or in the case of the Chinese, millennia). Wh= en these encounters occurred, the encountered culture collapsed in a cloud = of dust. Some of them, like the Turks, managed to reconstitute themselves a= s more or less modern nations; others, like the Arabs and the Chinese, are = still struggling with the trauma of that encounter. Neither the Arabs nor t= he Chinese, for example, have yet been able to attain rational, constitutio= nal government. For a devastating look at the paleolithic condition of poli= tics and society in the Arab world, I strongly recommend my colleague David= Pryce-Jones's book, The Closed Circle <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A= SIN/0060981032/qid=3D1000382845/sr=3D1-12/ref=3Dsc_b_12/103-0202540-1179008= /nationalreviewon<.=20 The 1991 Gulf War showed how little has changed since those first encounter= s. Here were the armies of the West: swift, deadly, efficient, equipped and= organized, under the command of elected civilians at the head of a robust = and elaborate constitutional structure. And here were the Arabs: a shamblin= g, ill-nourished, shoeless rabble, led by a mad gangster-despot. (That was = their Arabs. There were also, of course, our Arabs - the Kuwaitis and Saudi= s, cowering in their plush-lined air-conditioned bunkers being waited on by= their Filipino servants while we did their fighting for them.) Final body = counts: the West, 134 dead, the Arabs, 20,000 or more. The superiority of o= ne culture over another has not been so starkly demonstrated since a handfu= l of British wooden ships, at the end of ten-thousand-mile lines of communi= cations, brought the Celestial Empire to its knees 150 years earlier. The C= hinese are still mad about that: They are still making angry, bitter movies= about the Opium Wars. A hundred and 50 years from now, the Arabs will not = have forgotten the Gulf War.=20 If you haven't spent some time in its company, the depth, and bitterness of= hesperophobia in these cultures is hard to imagine. As Thomas Friedman poi= nts out in today's New York Times, Palestinian suicide bombers do not targe= t yeshivas, synagogues, or religious settlements. They go for shopping mall= s or Sbarro's outlets. Sure, they hate the Jews, but they hate the West as = much, or more.=20 Israel is not a cause of any of this, except to the degree that Israeli cul= ture is essentially Western. If the present state of Israel were inhabited = by Christian Lithuanians or Frenchmen, the hatred would be nearly as intens= e. Nearly, not completely: Hatred of the Jews has been built into Arab-Mosl= em culture since the time of Mohammed. There is a tale you will hear from A= rab apologists that the Jews were contented and well treated in the old Ara= b-Moslem empires. This is nonsense: More often than not, they were treated = like swine. For a true account, read Joan Peters's From Time Immemorial <ht= tp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0963624202/qid=3D1000384153/sr=3D1-1/r= ef=3Dsc_b_1/103-0202540-1179008/nationalreviewon<, or Gil Carl Alroy Behind= the Middle East Crisis</a<. From the Arab point of view, Israel, or any We= stern state on "Arab land," is an outrage, an illegitimate creation, a crus= ader state. The fact that the Jews had a wealthy and powerful nation on tha= t land three thousand years ago counts for nothing. Israel is, from the poi= nt of view of most Arabs, an alien graft that must not be allowed to "take.= " It is a reminder of what can barely be thought of without acute psychic p= ain: the squalid, hopeless, irredeemable inferiority of one's own culture b= y comparison with another.=20 So, so, so, is this any of America's business? What are we doing, meddling = in the Middle East? Where is our interest? Well, U.S. politicians must spea= k for themselves, but if I had any position of authority in any Western nat= ion, I would be urging full support for Israel, and I am not Jewish. (Follo= wing my Passover column <http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshir= e041001.shtml<, in fact, a lot of NRO readers, along with at least one ex-e= ditor of The New Republic, believe I am an anti-Semite.) It's a matter of c= ultural solidarity. We of the West must hang together, or else we shall han= g separately. American isolationists simply do not understand how much we a= re hated in other places.=20 What, after all, does the Buchananite program offer us, if carried through?= We have no troops in Israel to be withdrawn. If we withdraw our aid, the I= sraelis will be less able to defend themselves against the Arabs. Should we= just let the free market take over, U.S. arms manufacturers selling weapon= s to them cash on the nail? Apparently not: Several of my correspondents ha= ve explained to me that what so enrages the Arabs is the sight of their peo= ple being killed "by American weapons." Oh. No weapons, then (and presumabl= y we should try to repatriate the ones they already have - lots of luck wit= h that, guys). But if we don't arm the Israelis, who will? While other hesp= erophobic countries - China, for example - are gleefully arming the Arabs a= nd other Israel-haters like Iran, and pocketing the profits?=20 And the end of it all will be ... what? Inevitably, without our support, it= will be the destruction of Israel. They are so few, and the Arabs so many.= The Arabs will overwhelm that tiny state, and there will be such an orgy o= f massacre as has not been seen since the Rape of Nanking. And we shall be = doing ... what? Watching it on our TVs, with a six-pack and a bucket of Nac= ho chips in hand? That's the Buchananite vision? If so, it is a vision of c= owards and fools, and I want no part of it.=20 Israel's culture is ours. She is part of the West. If she goes down, we hav= e suffered a defeat, and the howling, jeering forces of barbarism have won = a victory. You don't have to be Zionist, nor even Jewish, to support Israel= . You don't have to be in the pocket of the Israeli congressional lobbies, = or a suck-up to "powerful pro-Zionist interests." You don't have to pretend= not to notice the occasional follies and cruelties of Israeli policy. You = don't have to forget about the U.S.S. Liberty or Jonathan Pollard. You just= have to think straight. You just have to understand that the war between c= ivilization and barbarism is being fought today just as it was fought at Ch= alons and Tours, at the gates of Kiev and Vienna, by the hoplites at Marath= on and the legions on the Rhine. It is, as you have heard a thousand times,= this past few days, a war; and the thing about war is, you have to take si= des, and close your eyes to your allies' imperfections for the duration. Th= ere isn't any choice. What happened this week was not, or not only, an act = of anti-Americanism, anti-Israelism, or anti-Semitism. It was in part all t= hose things: but more than anything else, it was an act of hesperophobia.= =20 ###=20
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